SŪDUVA - Ėglupiai Kaimas | R-BY164240

The Sūdovians adopted a Wielbark Gothic like weaponless burial observance. The Tiberius coin from Pajevonys, LT would suggest the interaction lasted for centuries. Inter-marriage probably was not uncommon. Ancient Wielbark culture Mtdna H5a1 would seems to support such mixing with Balts. The higher than expected frequency of the LWb+ antigen - LW*07 allelle ( aka Nea red cell antigen ) in Hungary ( 0.4% ) may well be related to the Goths, since southern Sweden had a similar ( 0.3% ) frequency, and Gotland has even more ( 1.0% ).

The 3rd-5th century "conversion" of "East Germanic" Gothic & Vandalic to "North Germanic" left scattered traces of it's earlier use, just as West Baltic dialects left relics spoken after East Baltic dialects quickly replaced them. A comparison of Gothic "saiso" with Old Norse "seri" provides evidence for reduplication hidden by rhotacism. Finnish and Estonian still use "ja" reflecting a Gothic "jah". Continental Gothic was essentially a socially disconnected outlier from the W. to E. sweeping changes ( with umlauts & rhotacism ) that took place back in Scandinavia, which fortunately survived intact as Wulfila's written Gothic of the Codex Argenteus.

The dialect characteristics of Wulfila's Biblical Gothic, like the Samlandian of the Prussian Catechisms, invites a heuristic approach. Tunnel vision adherence to the attested dialect forms is an unnecessarily flawed foundation to build anything on.

So Goths came from Götaland, like Sūdovians came from Sūduva. Who knew?

Ptolemy.

Nobody "Vanished".

Casa de Los Godos

"What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas"

It is very popular now in Lithuania to refer
to Pre-Christian Sūdovians as "Jotvingians".
The primary distinction now is religious
and does not consider ethnicity, nor the genetics of DNA.

By the 18th Century, most Sūdovians
and Yotvingians were either bi- or tri-lingual,
and thus not identified when speaking
Lithuanian, Polish, or Belarussian.

They converted, went to church,
and inter-married with others.
This is how Játvįgs Jotvingians "vanished".

There may still have been old speakers
as late as the 19th Century in the
remote Białowieża Forest area.

A census by clergy in Belarus at
that time revealed 31,000 church members
identified themselves as "Yatviags".

~ The Republic of Lithuania ruled in 2005 that SŪDUVA is only an ethnic/cultural term ~

~ Sūduva was not allowed to vote! ~

Latitude	54.5167	Longitude	22.8167	Altitude (feet)	269
Lat (DMS)	54° 31' 0N	Long (DMS)	22° 49' 0E	Altitude (meters)	82
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Latitude

54.5167

Longitude

22.8167

Altitude (feet)

269

Lat (DMS)

54° 31' 0N

Long (DMS)

22° 49' 0E

Altitude (meters)